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Sam T. Oates's avatar

HSR discourse and its consequences.

How can anglosphere discussion be re-oriented around U/S-bahns and metros, the way it is in this little progress studies bubble? Seems like an uphill battle, especially in CA. A few theories as to why:

- US rail is bad, but BART in particular seems almost custom-designed to act as a strawman of what these systems can be.

- CA HSR also feels designed in a lab to be a punching bag for tech people.

- "great founder theory" or "individual contributor" mindset discounts agglomeration.

- Disdain in some circles for the intangible economy/overcorrection toward reindustrialization.

- CA YIMBY types focus on permitting because BART, for all its problems, is way ahead of densification in SF.

- Obviously HSR is just cooler and there's the China angle (but they did this with metros too and I see much less mention of this outside transit-focused circles).

Also, I think the charitable reading of Dourado is that he thinks bionic duckweed is more realistic than California governments actually delivering anything. The premise being that the Abundance is impossible/naive, so the only way is to go around.

Michael Hill's avatar

The ‘don’t spend any more on old tech as there is new tech round the corner’ reminds me a bit of Labour 97-2010 not electrifying any railway as they thought hydrogen trains were coming!

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